Christian Flag Controversy Rages in N.C.
By TOM BREEN
The Associated Press
10/21/2010
KING, N.C. — The Christian flag is everywhere in the small city of King: flying
in front of barbecue joints and hair salons, stuck to the bumpers of trucks,
hanging in windows and emblazoned on T-shirts.
The relatively obscure emblem has become omnipresent because of one place it
can't appear: flying above a war memorial in a public park.
The city council decided last month to remove the flag from above the monument
in Central Park after a resident complained, and after city leaders got letters
from the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for the Separation
of Church and State urging them to remove it.
That decision incensed veterans groups, churches and others in King, a city of
about 6,000 people 15 miles north of Winston-Salem. Ray Martini, 63, an Air
Force veteran who served in Vietnam, launched a round-the-clock vigil to guard a
replica Christian flag hanging on a wooden pole in front of the war memorial.
Since Sept. 22, the vigil has been bolstered by home-cooked food delivered by
supporters, sleeping bags and blankets donated by a West Virginia man and offers
of support from New York to Louisiana.
"This monument stands as hallowed ground," said Martini, a tall, trim man with a
tattoo on his right arm commemorating the day in 1988 when he became a
born-again Christian. "It kills me when I think people want to essentially
desecrate it."
The protesters are concerned not only about the flag, which was one of 11 flying
above the memorial when it was dedicated six years ago, but about a metal
sculpture nearby depicting a soldier kneeling before a cross.
"I won't let it fall," Martini said. "I have already told the city, before you
can take it down, I'll tie myself to it and you can cut me down first."
The identity of the resident who complained about the flag, a veteran of the
Afghanistan war, has not been made public. But the state chapter of the ACLU has
no problem with the vigil.
"We were concerned when the city was sponsoring the Christian flag, but we don't
have any concern with veterans groups displaying the flag," legal director Katy
Parker said. "We think it's great the city is offering citizens a chance to
express their opinions."
The protesters, though, aren't satisfied with the vigil. They're planning an
Oct. 23 rally in support of their ultimate goal, which is for the city to
restore the Christian flag to the permanent metal pole on the memorial.
At a recent public hearing, roughly 500 people packed the King Elementary School
gymnasium, many waving Christian flags. Of more than 40 speakers, no one spoke
in favor of removing it.
"We've let our religious freedoms and constitutional rights be stripped away one
by one, and I think it's time we took a stand," King resident James Joyce said.
Mayor Jack Warren said the city won't make a decision until it can go over its
options with legal counsel. One possibility is designating a flag pole at the
memorial for the display of any religious emblem, he said. Another is selling or
donating the memorial to a veterans organization, essentially privatizing it.
"What it comes down to is: What can we do and what can't we do, what's legal and
what's illegal?" he said.
Created by a pastor in New York City a little over a century ago, the flag,
which sets a red cross in a blue square in the upper left corner of a white
field, has been used by both liberal and conservative Protestant churches, but
rarely draws much attention, according to Elesha Coffman, a history professor at
Waynesburg University.
"I would guess most churchgoing Protestants in America have never even noticed
if there is a Christian flag in their own sanctuary," she said. "It's just kind
of there, unless there's a controversy, and suddenly people pick it up."
In King, it's virtually inescapable. Gullion's Christian Supply Center, an area
retailer, has sold hundreds of flags since the dispute began, according to
Leanne Gay, who was running a tent at Calvary Baptist Church in King where
everything from Christian flag decals to T-shirts were for sale.
"In the first couple weeks, we were running out of flags every two hours or so,"
she said.
The Rev. Kevin Broyhill, pastor at Calvary Baptist, donated the flag now flying
at the vigil. But Broyhill thinks having it returned permanently to the memorial
is a losing legal strategy. He wants the city to transfer the memorial to a
veterans group, which would make it private land.
"Right now, the judges on the Fourth Circuit Court are very liberal," he said.
"This battle's already been fought in court."
Broyhill is probably right, according to Larry Little, a lawyer and professor of
political science at Winston-Salem State University.
"They know they'd lose," he said of the city council. "They would have to use
taxpayers' money to defend what any lawyer worth a grain of salt could tell them
is a violation of the separation of church and state."
For veterans who say they're honoring the sacrifices of fallen comrades or
Christians who say they're defending their faith, though, such a compromise
seems like a sellout.
"That's an easy out," said Eugene Kiger, who has been part of the vigil since
the beginning. "The people here saw what was happening and said, 'Somebody has
stood up. It's time to stand up with them.'"
The Associated Press
10/21/2010
KING, N.C. — The Christian flag is everywhere in the small city of King: flying
in front of barbecue joints and hair salons, stuck to the bumpers of trucks,
hanging in windows and emblazoned on T-shirts.
The relatively obscure emblem has become omnipresent because of one place it
can't appear: flying above a war memorial in a public park.
The city council decided last month to remove the flag from above the monument
in Central Park after a resident complained, and after city leaders got letters
from the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for the Separation
of Church and State urging them to remove it.
That decision incensed veterans groups, churches and others in King, a city of
about 6,000 people 15 miles north of Winston-Salem. Ray Martini, 63, an Air
Force veteran who served in Vietnam, launched a round-the-clock vigil to guard a
replica Christian flag hanging on a wooden pole in front of the war memorial.
Since Sept. 22, the vigil has been bolstered by home-cooked food delivered by
supporters, sleeping bags and blankets donated by a West Virginia man and offers
of support from New York to Louisiana.
"This monument stands as hallowed ground," said Martini, a tall, trim man with a
tattoo on his right arm commemorating the day in 1988 when he became a
born-again Christian. "It kills me when I think people want to essentially
desecrate it."
The protesters are concerned not only about the flag, which was one of 11 flying
above the memorial when it was dedicated six years ago, but about a metal
sculpture nearby depicting a soldier kneeling before a cross.
"I won't let it fall," Martini said. "I have already told the city, before you
can take it down, I'll tie myself to it and you can cut me down first."
The identity of the resident who complained about the flag, a veteran of the
Afghanistan war, has not been made public. But the state chapter of the ACLU has
no problem with the vigil.
"We were concerned when the city was sponsoring the Christian flag, but we don't
have any concern with veterans groups displaying the flag," legal director Katy
Parker said. "We think it's great the city is offering citizens a chance to
express their opinions."
The protesters, though, aren't satisfied with the vigil. They're planning an
Oct. 23 rally in support of their ultimate goal, which is for the city to
restore the Christian flag to the permanent metal pole on the memorial.
At a recent public hearing, roughly 500 people packed the King Elementary School
gymnasium, many waving Christian flags. Of more than 40 speakers, no one spoke
in favor of removing it.
"We've let our religious freedoms and constitutional rights be stripped away one
by one, and I think it's time we took a stand," King resident James Joyce said.
Mayor Jack Warren said the city won't make a decision until it can go over its
options with legal counsel. One possibility is designating a flag pole at the
memorial for the display of any religious emblem, he said. Another is selling or
donating the memorial to a veterans organization, essentially privatizing it.
"What it comes down to is: What can we do and what can't we do, what's legal and
what's illegal?" he said.
Created by a pastor in New York City a little over a century ago, the flag,
which sets a red cross in a blue square in the upper left corner of a white
field, has been used by both liberal and conservative Protestant churches, but
rarely draws much attention, according to Elesha Coffman, a history professor at
Waynesburg University.
"I would guess most churchgoing Protestants in America have never even noticed
if there is a Christian flag in their own sanctuary," she said. "It's just kind
of there, unless there's a controversy, and suddenly people pick it up."
In King, it's virtually inescapable. Gullion's Christian Supply Center, an area
retailer, has sold hundreds of flags since the dispute began, according to
Leanne Gay, who was running a tent at Calvary Baptist Church in King where
everything from Christian flag decals to T-shirts were for sale.
"In the first couple weeks, we were running out of flags every two hours or so,"
she said.
The Rev. Kevin Broyhill, pastor at Calvary Baptist, donated the flag now flying
at the vigil. But Broyhill thinks having it returned permanently to the memorial
is a losing legal strategy. He wants the city to transfer the memorial to a
veterans group, which would make it private land.
"Right now, the judges on the Fourth Circuit Court are very liberal," he said.
"This battle's already been fought in court."
Broyhill is probably right, according to Larry Little, a lawyer and professor of
political science at Winston-Salem State University.
"They know they'd lose," he said of the city council. "They would have to use
taxpayers' money to defend what any lawyer worth a grain of salt could tell them
is a violation of the separation of church and state."
For veterans who say they're honoring the sacrifices of fallen comrades or
Christians who say they're defending their faith, though, such a compromise
seems like a sellout.
"That's an easy out," said Eugene Kiger, who has been part of the vigil since
the beginning. "The people here saw what was happening and said, 'Somebody has
stood up. It's time to stand up with them.'"
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The majority does not rule, and this land is not for the majority any longer nor was it ever made it be, its for the freedom of all .
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